Saturday, April 22, 2017

Fighting to Save Science

I suppose someone has to do it.  After all, imagine what things would be like if a selfish conservative just changed the laws of science and the thermal output of the Sun suddenly increased by an order of magnitude.  It would be a real scorcher.

Being from the San Francisco area, I am now wondering what should be our next object of protest.  Any suggestions?

9 comments:

Rummuser said...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satyagraha

Raj Krishnaswamy said...

A protest to even out ( at least somewhat ) the huge disparity in incomes -- the few possessing more than what is needed while many starve for a meal.

Looney said...

@Rummuser, this term is going to take some time for me to stew on. Is it possible for someone to have an interest in truth without knowing about Satyagraha? And what happens if two people are equally convinced of their possession of truth, but their beliefs are mutually exclusive and hostile to one another?

Looney said...

@Raj, keep in mind that the protestors traditionally are the children of the rich here in the US. Then there is the claim that the number one health problem of the poor in the West is obesity.

But now you have me curious: My son had been donating to an NGO that was providing resources to the poor in India. I hear that many of them have been indirectly forced to shut down due to regulations on financial transactions. Is that good or bad? I haven't heard many opinions on this.

Rummuser said...

I personally would not opt for satyagraha. I think that it is negative. I think that the Mahatma made a big mistake in asking Indians to do what they are best at doing, which is nothing. Subsequently, India went on to become a Socialistic society and we had plenty of satyagraha all the time which almost destroyed the nation. Being broke forced us to shift gears and the results are there for every one to see.

I am an admirer of Subash Chandra Bose who formed an army to fight the British to gain freedom. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subhas_Chandra_Bose)

Funding NGOs in India in my very humble opinion is foolish. It is taking money from the poor in the rich countries to give to the rich in poor countries and the money hardly ever achieves what it is supposed to do other than quote save some souls unquote. In the process the savers make a lot of money and the donors think that their passage to heaven has been well lubricated.

Home bred NGOs on the other hand are usually run by individuals or a group of friends/family who achieve a great deal more and without raising funds from overseas. Take this for instance. http://www.iimpact.org/

Rummuser said...

Sometimes, elusive information land in your lap under most unexpected circumstances. Here is a guiding principle that suggests a way of looking at Ahimsa / Satyagraha.

"True ahimsa is not non-resistance or appeasement but removing the forces of harm or himsa by effort or force as required by circumstances."

Source an interpretation of the Bhagwad Geeta.

Max Coutinho said...

Hi Looney,

I am guessing the San Francisco may already be preparing a protest against the publication of "Rising Star: the Making of Barack Obama" on May 9 lol.

I think there are too many protests going on around the world (sponsored ones, of course). Soon, they will lose meaning due to their banality.

Cheers

Looney said...

@Rummuser, yes I agree that there are plenty of NGO scams, as well as home grown charity scams in the US. It is best to do things on a local basis if at all possible.

Looney said...

@Max, I am wondering if the people will tire of protesting. But we are losing the Bay Area's two football teams, so maybe the protesting will just be a new opportunity for people to gather together, get drunk and scream while jumping up and down.