Saturday, March 10, 2012

Elections ...

There is a California primary coming up in June, which I have given zero thought about so far.  In preparing for this, my main thought is of the bankruptcy of Greece and their effort to use "swaps" so that bankruptcy can be achieved without formally being declared.  It is a bit like the chapter 11 bankruptcy in the US which keeps a bankrupt entity afloat so that it can continue bleeding the creditors, while making it more difficult for more responsibly run competitors to achieve fiscal health.

The US is formally on the same track as Greece, having chosen the Greek legal/economic model a few elections back and appointed judges who will issue ruling after ruling declaring fiscal sanity to be unconstitutional, while professors and other talking heads will pour out vitriol onto any effort to change course.  It is like the Greek model, but doubly so, since the classical Greeks declared that this is how Democracy ends.  Short of God's intervention, it seems to me that little can be done avert this self-inflicted disaster.

Besides the economic disaster, there is also the moral collapse that the classical Greeks described.  In our case, the intellectualloids have argued that the only sin God will definitely condemn is the sin of theocracy.  The only way we can avoid theocracy is for the government to be an active sponsor for depravity and desecrations.  If we do otherwise, then we are agreeing with God, hence, we would be a theocracy!  Thus, per these geniuses, the only sin is to not be an enthusiastic promoter of sin!  Ah, but Plato and Aristotle described all this.

And what does that have to do with the election?  Part of me says that we are doomed no matter who wins, but if someone decent wins, the intellectualloids will declare to succeeding generations that America failed because of the evils of decency.  To deliberately vote for someone evil so that the collapse would occur under her watch, however, would be against my conscience.

Regarding the Republican candidates, I am still bugged.  Ron Paul is a libertarian, which I consider to be part of the latter degenerate stages of Democracy.  It is a formal belief that governments have no role in restraining vice, nor in promoting virtue. Gingrich seems to have too many problems managing his own house so I would be reluctant to give him a larger task.  My main fear regarding Romney is that he isn't Mormon enough ...  is he really going to take a stand against a runaway theocracy of vice and depravity? I still don't know much about Santorum, but the hysterics of the intellectual classes indicates that he is probably good.  Still, to vote for him seems to be a bit like choosing a lamb to be sacrificed.  Pondering this can still wait a while.  Mañana.

5 comments:

Delirious said...

I am with you about Romney. I'm really not sure he is as conservative as I want him to be. But I am supporting him because I think he is the only one who has any chance of beating Obama. There is one thing to be said about his "leftist in conservative clothing" traits. At least this makes him more appealing to those on the left who maybe aren't happy with Obama. And in the end, I'll be happy with whatever conservative we get as long as we get Obama out! :)

Vid said...

"Ron Paul is a libertarian, which I consider to be part of the latter degenerate stages of Democracy. It is a formal belief that governments have no role in restraining vice, nor in promoting virtue."

That really isn't the government's job though. Government is there to protect your rights; what you do with them is up to you. That being said, Ron Paul should have dropped out of the race long ago simply because he can't win; he isn't popular enough to get the nomination.

Looney said...

Vid, I do like to see the Libertarian view debated, so don't mind Ron Paul being there. The classical Greeks, however, would view the notion of "rights" in Democracy as being a bit like "My Precious" in the Lord of the Rings. Aristotle taught during the final stages of the collapse of classical Greek civilization at the end of their democratic period, thus, he is an expert on the matter. Here is one of his most important quotes:

"And this will be found to agree with what we said at the outset; for we stated the end of political science to be the best end, and political science spends most of its pains on making the citizens to be of a certain character, viz. good and capable of noble acts." - Nichomachean Ethics, book 1

The problem is that all politicians will follow Aristotle's version of the end of politics: They will try to engineer men's souls, even if the promotion of rights and liberty is the pretext that allows them to gain office!

Dr. Russell Norman Murray said...

'Regarding the Republican candidates, I am still bugged. Ron Paul is a libertarian, which I consider to be part of the latter degenerate stages of Democracy. It is a formal belief that governments have no role in restraining vice, nor in promoting virtue. Gingrich seems to have too many problems managing his own house so I would be reluctant to give him a larger task. My main fear regarding Romney is that he isn't Mormon enough ... is he really going to take a stand against a runaway theocracy of vice and depravity? I still don't know much about Santorum, but the hysterics of the intellectual classes indicates that he is probably good. Still, to vote for him seems to be a bit like choosing a lamb to be sacrificed. Pondering this can still wait a while. Mañana.'

Entertaining, Sir. As a Canadian outsider and moderate conservative that believes in philosophically less government, as we have brushed upon on this blog and I have briefly mentioned on my blogs, I wonder how much difference it will make even if a Republican President wins, as the House and Senate can still vary with parties, for one. Seems to me there needs to be larger changes than just the parties politically. Approach to government needs to change.

Looney said...

Russ, we are certainly agreeing that the next president won't make much difference. Our government is overspending each year by something like 10% of GDP, but this is locked in and can't be reversed unless the president and 2/3 of the house and 2/3 or the senate agreed, and then we would have thousands of court cases filed into the system so that each judge would have a veto.

But God has a good purpose in all this!